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Robert Moore's avatar

I have recently read an account that claims that the mosque shooters were a romantic couple. That would fit the most recent trends.

Michelle Styles's avatar

It is unsurprising. Same sort of milieu as Charlie Kirk's killer then. The photos of Cain Clark made me wonder...

JBell's avatar

I read that the pic of them kissing was AI generated.

PoetKen Jones's avatar

So Spartan

Michelle Styles's avatar

Hopefully your eyes will get better.

The San Diego mosque shooting is a weird one -- it would appear they wanted to commit suicide and hated everyone. The police will be trying to piece together a motive etc. This is what The Telegraph are saying: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2026/05/20/san-diego-california-mosque-gunmen-attack/ or https://archive.ph/QBHl7

This is the Times: https://www.thetimes.com/us/news-today/article/cain-clark-caleb-velasquez-san-diego-mosque-shooting-teenagers-lp0kdxgt8 or https://archive.ph/YqFXi

The Andrew files have just been released. UNsurprisingly the Queen was keen on her son getting the role. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c707eng8rzet

Bruce Miller's avatar

The Andrew article seemed much ado about nothing.

Maybe the mosque shooting involved Islam's persecution of gays? The rainbow flags on our Episcopal churches offered protection?

Michelle Styles's avatar

Yes I agree the release of the Andrew files is much ado about nothing. The government still have not released all the files re Mandelson to the select committee and this is a sop.

I personally think they were just opportunistic. But yes Muslim tend to be socially conservative and prefer thing like sex segregation. The reason why trans is popular in Iran is that people are often a choice -- either transition or be hanged (unless you are Khamanei's son and in which case impotency counselling in London).

I presume you have seen the change in law in Afghanistan re child marriage. 9 years old. That country is rapidly going backward, but several comments I saw on the subject mentioned a specific marriage as a template.

Net migration has fallen in the UK as result of Conservative reforms in 2024, but Mahmood is going further. A recent poll of Labour members showed a strong preference for secure borders (surprise, surprise). https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/labour-migration-immigration-reform-starmer-mahmood-jksfh2gkt or https://archive.ph/O5xlz

Michelle Styles's avatar

This is an article in the Independent about the child rape which is now permitted in Afghanistan. https://archive.ph/vWhHj

JBell's avatar

🤬

Michelle Styles's avatar

My thoughts precisely on this. It makes the BBC World article all the more reprehensible.

PoetKen Jones's avatar

Among many virtues of enlightenment and tolerance, Islam must have missed the memo about no homophobia. Live and let love. None of my bidness.

Bruce Miller's avatar

Which is hilarious, given their degradation of women and preference for young boys.

BD's avatar

I do not believe there is much of a doubt regarding the trans aspect of the mosque shooters. Seems pretty obvious, given the pictures.

Chris's avatar

TwiX has been blowing up comparing St Floyd of Fent, with the story of an English kid, Henry Novak, who was stabbed by a muzzy, but when the police arrived, the illegal claimed the English kid was racist so they supposedly hand-cuffed the victim who then bled out? Truth to this?

Michelle Styles's avatar

It was a Sikh not a Muslim who stabbed him 5 times. The police did handcuff the victim who was trying to climb over a fence.

It is a murder trial with the defence being -- I was racially abused and it was self defence. Up to the jury, but I suspect he will be convicted. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdxp4n0wgv1o

Celia M Paddock's avatar

My eyes are greatly improved, almost back to normal, thanks to the wonder of antibiotics.

Michelle Styles's avatar

Antibiotics are truly a miracle of modern medicine. So pleased the infection is responding to them.

Michael Karg's avatar

About the San Diego teenage shooters: funny the hundreds, maybe thousands, of teenage shooters per year in Chicago don't get this attention.

B.'s avatar

Well, there we are. Not me, but lots of people ignore the slow drips of their leaky pipes and call plumbers only when the darned things burst.

Bill Cribben's avatar

There are not thousands and they get attention but only after the fact.

PoetKen Jones's avatar

I would bet cash money that a thousand Chicago youth a year are involved in gun violence. Without looking it up, to the charity of your choice…

Celia M Paddock's avatar

Actually, they don't get much attention, even after the fact. It's usually only if a young child ends up dead that the media takes note of it.

B.'s avatar
May 21Edited

Interesting, Celia. One of the mosque shooters certainly does look "feminine" to me although I hesitate to use that word, preferring to save it for, say, a young Margaret Sullavan (who was, though, backboned with Virginia steel).

The big news here is that it's over 30 degrees cooler than yesterday and the day before and the day before, and it'll stay 30 degrees cooler for a while.

On the hmmm! side of things, reading a nice thick biography of Cecil B. DeMille. It was his mother who by necessity turned the family estate on Pompton Lake, in New Jersey, into a boarding school, and that's where Evelyn Nesbit was attending school before she married Harry Thaw, who later of course murdered Stanford White. I had never connected the school with "C.B."

Finally, the manhole covers: Because the metal ones conduct electricity and we've had dogs and their owners electrocuted especially in winter, Con Ed and other agencies have been switching to composite materials that are lighter and more easily dislodged. This year there have been twice the number of 311 calls complaining about open manholes than in previous years.

Bill Cribben's avatar

Was she the IT Girl?

B.'s avatar

Haha! I had to look it up. Turns out the original "it" girl was, according to AI, Clara Bow.

PoetKen Jones's avatar

Sullivan came a bit later

B.'s avatar

I think Mr. Cribben meant Clara Bow.

In the meantime, my eyes glaze over at the names of today's dim stars with their lesser lights. Who?! I think, and then turn the electronic pages.

Bruce Miller's avatar

I think only one person died from electrocution from an underground Con Ed vault. And that was because an employee failed to follow proper procedures.

B.'s avatar

There actually have been spates of such electrocution cases in cities all over the country including Boston. True only one person died of being electrocuted, and that was in New York City, but I believe several dogs and a carriage horse were also killed.

Bruce Miller's avatar

So you switched the narrative from Con Ed......Got it.

B.'s avatar
May 21Edited

Why does this comment sound aggressive to me, Bruce. Maybe it's not.

Electric companies maintain underground cables in various cities and in some cases corrosion has done its worst. It's a problem anywhere there's aging infrastructure.

And it's certainly applicable here in New York City, with cables maintained by Con Ed, where there have been many electrocutions but, happily, as you point out, only one death. Have I switched a narrative?

Bruce Miller's avatar

Me? Aggressive? lol

True that corrosion takes its toll on underground electric (and other utility) systems and salting roads and sidewalks doesn't help. The aging infrastructure issue would easily have been addressed had not public utility commissions shorted utilities' depreciation expense and directed monies to other non-utility matters, such as funding indigent customers and installing green nonsense that hampers reliability. Then there is the insane tax structure of New York and NYC that forces utility customers to pay ridiculous property and other taxes. And makes utilities hide that in their bills for "utility" service.

In the case of the Con Ed electrocution, that utility payed a massive fine, even though it was proven that the employee violated company safety procedures.

PoetKen Jones's avatar

Bruce spent his career working with utilities as an attorney

B.'s avatar

Yes, it's all right; spouse was a corporate lawyer.

Sea Sentry's avatar

Why is electric current exposed in such a way that it can make contact with a manhole? This doesn’t make sense. Sounds like a deferred maintenance issue.

PoetKen Jones's avatar

From West Hollywood to Chelsea, electric poles make contact with manholes every day, and it doesn’t make sense 😏

Notes from the Under Dog L.'s avatar

Stanford White...who designed the Washington Square Arch?

B.'s avatar

Yes. In fact, DeMille as a little boy watched it go up and took away bits of marble debris.

PoetKen Jones's avatar

I’ve been ripped off trying to buy a few dime bags under that arch so I drowned my sorrows at the Cubby Hole until the lesbians started hitting on me 😝

PoetKen Jones's avatar

Margaret Sullivan! So beautiful 🤩 Rumors about her and Jimmy Stewart (and Henry Fonda) have floated for decades. What man wouldn’t her?

B.'s avatar

Sullavan was married to Fonda. No rumors there.

PoetKen Jones's avatar

Did not remember that fact. Is she Jane’s Mother?

B.'s avatar

No, that was yet another of Fonda's wives.

Bill Cribben's avatar

Most people

Bruce Miller's avatar

The San Diego mosque shooting.....cry me a river (to the sea). Sorry, don't care, Christians are massacred by the day and the world - and our worthless press - yawns. And no, the shooters weren't MAGA. But that didn't stop the usual suspects from wailing about "hate crimes." And protecting our Muslim brothers. Now try practicing Christianity - or any other sane religion - in an "Islamic Republic" of whatever-stan. The death cult of a 7th Century pedophile - spread through conquest, murder, rape and forced conversion - has no place in America. No cult dedicated with replacing our sacred Constitution does. Time to open your eyes to the truth. Islam is the enemy of Western values and civilization.

Notes from the Under Dog L.'s avatar

I am so f'n sick and tired of the media making a big deal out of certain people getting killed and not the many others who are out minding their own business when confronted by sick-in-the-head people from the group we are expected to pity the most. I just read through a list of black murders of white victims, and wouldn't you know, they weren't resisting arrest. They were in their homes minding their own business, or out walking their dogs, or pulling into a parking lot...

As for the mosque killers -- and the "press" girls in Minnie Mouse outfits hankering for Luigi Mangioni, something in the water is breeding an abominable amount of hatred in young people....

And on a final exam prompt about the decline in marriage rates, nearly all of them claimed that their career should come first, even if it means failing to form a family....

PoetKen Jones's avatar

That’s what i always said so 🤷

Alan's avatar

*sigh* My family is the only reason I have a “career”. I would retire yesterday if it was just me.

This made me think of the Ayn Rand conversation. Atlas Shrugged was the book that made me realize my boss had no real authority. I still remember a conversation where he told me I needed to work shifts I didn’t want to work after my son was born (24/7 hospital with lots of different pharmacy services and I was always getting the short straw). He said he could always just schedule me for those shifts, and if I didn’t show up, we’d deal with the consequences. I responded that he could always find himself another pharmacist. Ten years later, I still have a job. If you think career is more important than family, you’ll always be easily manipulated. Usually by people who have absolutely no idea how to do what you do.

Notes from the Under Dog L.'s avatar

What's truly sad is that even the slightest pushback on this sabotaging mindset is seen as "right wing," in other words, 'the perspective that shall not be uttered.

PoetKen Jones's avatar

Y’all are entitled to your opinion but I will say. Dog. and you’ll likely agree that any kind of true artist really falls outside the traditional career categories. I certainly understand where Alan is coming from and for most people who work to live, it applies; creatives often live to work, though our “work” is unusual and unlike standard roles . Btw I do regret not having kids in hindsight, which is always 20/20

Alan's avatar

“When you do what you love, you never work a day” and all that. Although it’s still a ton of work and definitely comes with trade offs. You are 100% correct, though. When I think of the word career, I think of working for the man and climbing the corporate ladder. The instability of the career you’ve chosen would terrify me. But as I watch my daughter turn on music and dance her little heart out almost every day, I sure am thankful for people like you who take that risk.

Chilblain Edward Olmos's avatar

Or as my mother always says:

Anything worth doing is a pain in the ass.

PoetKen Jones's avatar

I wish her well. It is inherently unstable but if it’s her calling, she answer the bell no matter the obstacles

Notes from the Under Dog L.'s avatar

Well, given the way my "career" went, I would have been better off as a housewife a la Shirley Jackson. I'd have written ten novels by now. Alas, I had to grind away at working constantly just to get by. Not so great for the creative mindset, although I have done some creative work (for money), and do spend what time I can on writing and other creative things.

But my mother was always making things. Making and reading. And our house was a mess with sewing, painting, doll-making, and so on. She later admitted that she had it much better than I have.

So...the career first thing is a lie. It just is.

Celia M Paddock's avatar

I'm glad that your mom finally realized that being a SAHM is not the trap that second wave feminists made her think it was. The reality is that, once you become an adult, if you can't find someone (spouse, rich relative/friend, or the government) to support you, you will have to work to support yourself. Usually at a pretty thankless job.

Feminists presented a false picture: choose between being a slave in the home or being a CEO. But most working women don't become CEOs. For that matter, most men don't become CEOs. If anyone is actually *trapped* in a slave-like position, it is a man with a family to support. He can't afford to take the financial and career risks that a single man can. He's stuck in a 40+hour-a-week grind, and no one except his wife (if he is lucky) pities or even appreciates him.

Housewives have always had the luxury of scheduling their daily tasks much less rigidly, particularly once labor-saving appliances appeared on the scene. Even back when managing a household consumed a tremendous portion of a woman's physical efforts, women found time to channel creative energy into beautifying their homes or their possessions...or in some cases, into writing. Babies and small children are the biggest drain on a woman's time and energy, and that epoch of motherhood doesn't last indefinitely (and carries its own compensating rewards). The single biggest deadline in a SAHM's day is getting dinner on the table.

PoetKen Jones's avatar

See my comment to you and Dog below

Orwell’s Rabbit's avatar

I’ve been thinking lately that we seem to be reliving all the worst parts of the 1960s (which I’m too young to remember, but I’m basing it on what I’ve read about the time). The political unrest, the anti-war movements, the domestic terrorism, the black nationalism, the drugs… but the modern version may be even worse than the original one. Today’s homeless are a further deterioration of the hippies, the Mangione girls are a modernized take on the Manson family, BLM and its extended money-grubbers are a twist on the Black Panthers. And the “silent majority“ seems to be tripping over its own two left feet, in favor of the looney left’s overwhelming efforts to destroy our society.

It’s hard for me to get overly upset about groypers (bad though they are) when we recently underwent a complete re-making of our society by means of a foreign invasion, massive fraud schemes, the complete corruption of the “justice system” and the media, along with other societal rots too numerous to mention.

Timothy G McKenna's avatar

And why, oh why, is there virtually NO mention ANYWHERE about the Muslim genocide of Catholics in Nigeria???

Helloooo, Mr. Dopey-Pope Leo….

Clarity Seeker's avatar

Has Roy Cooper weighed in on his Fayettville Man? Or his Charlotte Light Rail Man? And he wants to take his show to DC

Clarity Seeker's avatar

How many Massie supporters are now or will soon announce they are never trumpets and will either vote D or boycott voting ( same as voting D)

Unwoke in Idaho's avatar

Were they really supporters though or just islamocommies on the interwebs playing American.

Clarity Seeker's avatar

I think there is a real schism of sorts. We shall see how folks vote or even stay home. Will Massie become a martyr of sorts. Will Carslon and Megyn make that their new mission. Stay tuned. And right now the issue is out there: how much of this is about Israel and how much is about the national debt and spending? This is what requires inquiry and clarity

Danny H's avatar

I think you are onto something. The split between early Massie, before his wife passed away, and recent Massie is being pretty well covered on X and gives what I think is a pretty indicative look at the split for the Republicans. The split seems to be around Israel, Epstein, and Iran. It seems like there is some forcing for the publicly political class to hit the trifecta on one side or the other.

It is an interesting schism, and I guess we'll find out how damaging this is to the Republicans come November. My guess is, if the Republicans fail miserably in November, it will be because a large number of typical Republican voters stay home. I'm pretty confident that will be Talarico's strategy in Texas, and to be honest, if I were in his shoes I'd do the same thing.

Bill Cribben's avatar

The Mosque shooters should not be casually dismissed as white supremacists or the spawn of Democrats. They are the Droogs of the post Covid world. They are mostly young males some with a trans twist. They are London’s rape gangs, the locusts that swarm public beaches and the urban thugs who takeover malls. They are much more dangerous than Russian collusion delusion, the Epstein files even the auto pen. Comparatively those are distractions. Their scripture is the dark recesses of the internet. They strive to destroy society and none of us will thrive in the world they desire.

James Roberts's avatar

Aren't London's (UK's) rape gangs largely Islamic immigrants? Not sure I see the connection to post-COVID droogs (nice reference btw)..

B.'s avatar

"They strive to destroy society . . . . "

Not that the beach brawlers think that. That sort of coherent thinking is beyond them.

Chilblain Edward Olmos's avatar

However I would not be surprised if the “teen” takeovers community has been infiltrated by accelerationist types.

Went down a YT rabbit hole last night and stumbled upon these after watching a reasonable “gateway” video : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=67cHB0Vgdfk&ra=m

Which led to these 3 fascinating and disturbing investigations concerning the accelerationist movement from Kelly Spinks:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eCyxBzW6ItE&ra=m

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0S3HXkVq5h0&ra=m

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UVBwXrlmyMQ&rco=1&ra=m

Fascinating if disturbing stuff.

B.'s avatar

Thank you for the links. Watched the first one, and will try the others too when I can bear it, Chilblain. We are in trouble.

Chilblain Edward Olmos's avatar

You’re welcome. Yeah, it’s a dark rabbit hole. It seems unbelievable upon coming across it at first but It also seems quite plausible the more you delve into it, Scary stuff. But it does seem to explain some seemingly unexplainable horrors.

B Smith's avatar

Maybe another reassuring one for you and other NYers:

“what I also love about this story is that it restores faith in human nature. Something similar happened to me. I spaced out and left my expensive handbag on the seat of a subway going from Manhattan to Queens. I realized it when I got to my destination and FREAKED OUT. A little while later, I got a call from a policeman saying he had my purse. Apparently, a teacher on the train noticed that I had left it behind, grabbed it, got off at the next station, and gave it to the police. I was in shock and so incredibly grateful that an honest person was able to intervene.”

B.'s avatar

Yes, such things do happen, and I'll bet more often than we guess. Thank you.

AzAnt's avatar

Striving to destroy society was apparently beyond the thinking of those mosque shooters too, its hard to destroy something if you're dead.

After reading their manifesto, it seems like they just absorbed every hateful idea available. One of them was ADHD so there's that.

PoetKen Jones's avatar

Love the Clockwork Orange reference. Makes me want to go into a mosque with a large phallic statue to chase hijab clad Muslimas for “a little of the old in/out”.

Sierras23's avatar

"Droogs...brilliant reference.

Bruce Miller's avatar

The coin find was interesting. How much, really, do we know by what we manage to dig up? Both as to history and human evolution? Especially since recorded, written history only goes back a little over 3000 years.

Heyjude's avatar

I’ve often wondered the same thing. I suspect some archeologists far in the future will find the Lincoln Memorial and conclude our society worshipped a very tall and thin deity with a beard.

Bruce Miller's avatar

Brings to mind the Statue of Liberty buried in sand in Planet of the Apes...,,

PoetKen Jones's avatar

“Get your stinking paws off me you damned dirty ape!” And is that mute hottie he beds a normie guy’s ideal? I’ve always liked strong feisty women so I’m asking…

Bruce Miller's avatar

Whatever became of Linda Harrison? She was pretty cute.

Chilblain Edward Olmos's avatar

A looker indeed.

Dave Slate's avatar

George Taylor: A planet where apes evolved from men? There's got to be an answer.

Dr. Zaius: Don't look for it, Taylor. You may not like what you find.

Dr. Zira: What will he find out there, doctor?

Dr. Zaius: His destiny.

Danny H's avatar

If you ever get the chance and haven't done this, go to a dig site for something really old. I've been to a few, the most recent a dig pulling up Columbian Mammoths from a site just outside of Waco. It's not my area of expertise so they could be blowing a lot of wind up my skirt, but it certainly seems like they can tell a lot by what they find, how deep, in what order, etc.

There are a good number of mound sites, along with America's Stonehenge up your way. I believe a lot of that is in Massachusetts, not sure how far that is for you. I love the mound sites with the pre-historical human artifacts. There are some pre-Clovis people sites in Texas, and they are fascinating.

Or, I'm super gullible because I want it to be interesting. I'll leave room for either to be true.

Danimal28's avatar

Inflammatory rhetoric from the Left affects people to do bad things and they want it that way.

Jen Todd's avatar

The dems message is absolutely, 100%, nothing but negativity and failure. If I had to constantly be subjected to their relentless black cloud of doom, I'd probably kill myself and as many people as possible, too. Yes, they want it that way.

Notes from the Under Dog L.'s avatar

The coin is an intriguing find. I was the other day talking about seeing the terra cotta soldiers in X'ian. Those were found when a farmer's shovel hit them, as I recall. It's one of the most amazing sights I have ever seen.

The coin reminds me of a fascinating Instagram account on MUDLARKING, where they go into the Thames and pull out the most amazing old things, some dating back to Roman times. If I remember correctly, he even came across a Roman sandal.

PoetKen Jones's avatar

The Terra cotta warriors were on our list when Diet Coke Partner and I went to Beijing but too far-you really need a separate trip.

Notes from the Under Dog L.'s avatar

My friend and I took a tour -- was it USO? purchased through the military base in Itaewon (Seoul). I usually do all of the planning, so this was a real treat. We had a driver, and flights from Beijing, Xian, and Shanghai, back to Seoul.

The soldiers are in X'ian, which was the highlight of the tour for me. It's a walled city. We took a bus around the city and the sights were so interesting. Well worth returning for -- with or without Diet Coke Partner!

The Hong Kong Handover happened while we were there.

Danny H's avatar

I'm very jealous!

James Roberts's avatar

Personally, I'd prefer a Republican party that has a home for (as best I can tell) people of conscience and conviction such as Thomas Massie. Yes, it's hard to tolerate when margins are razor thin. Then again, that's the only time they get any leverage. Bu

Do we really want a Congress that is dominated by corporate shills and yes men?

PoetKen Jones's avatar

💯

Louisa Enright's avatar

I read that Massie was not representing his voters, so was out of step with his voters, that he kind of went the way of Tucker Carlson about Israel, etc. I have wondered if he kind of changed after his wife died these past years--4 or 5 ago? And Jupplandia writing about this issue kind of suggested Massie had become something of a womanizer. But I didn't look more deeply, so... Take that all with a grain of salt...

Unwoke in Idaho's avatar

You really think Massie, the obstructionist had any real principles and a conscience? Seriously? That was a guy whose “principles” allowed the democrats to obstruct so much common sense items that need to be done. Democrats only want power. It seems Massie only wants ink.

And let’s just see how his principles stand up in the next 7 months, shall we? Will he vote conservative or will he vote to stick it to those who bounced him. He reminds me of those “principled conservatives” like Bill Kristol, Pastor French and Jonah I laugh at my own jokes because no one else will Goldberg” who hated Trump with the heat of a thousand suns and who threw every one of their vaunted “principled conservative” positions overboard when Trump actually implemented those positions.

Honestly, Massie was of the MTG ilk, in it for himself and the country be damned.

Sasha Stone had it right. https://www.sashastone.com/p/massie-fafod?

PoetKen Jones's avatar

He voted with Trump 92% of the time, opposing wasteful war spending and demanding accountability for the Epstein Class. He was also Independently wealthy, so If he was “in it for himself” what does that say about the vast majority of others in similar positions? . And who is really damning the country?

Unwoke in Idaho's avatar

“I would’ve come out sooner, but I had to call my opponent and concede, and it took a while to find Ed Gallrein in Tel Aviv.”

What a guy.

James Roberts's avatar

Not his finest moment. We shall see if his voting record changes now. If it does, well I guess that does suggest his character was a facade. I'm curious to see.

PoetKen Jones's avatar

If a person or group gave me $30 million to achieve one of my goals, you can damn well believe they’d have me on speed dial and know where to find me. Guess we can’t talk about that reality? One issue lobbying and voting is fine but the disinfectant of sunlight that never made it into Jeffery Epstein’s cell is long overdue.

Unwoke in Idaho's avatar

Where was Massie on Epstein during the reign of Joey?

PoetKen Jones's avatar

Nice deflection but I’m not here to die on the Massie hill. The most important point is that if our representatives in government are somehow blackmailed with sexual misconduct or otherwise, then their decisions are not representing what the people want and we deserve to know. I’ll support on this issue anyone trying to pry the truth from the opaque shadows where it currently hides.

Celia M Paddock's avatar

I'm curious where you found that number, because I'm not aware of any bills where he voted 'with Trump.' I'm not sure how that can be 92% of the time.

PoetKen Jones's avatar

Much like Trump I don’t know where that came from lol. But my main point is he presented as a small government libertarian type most of his career but only after he became so vocal about the Epstein issue did MAGA world turn on him.

Sea Sentry's avatar

And what happens to all the Trump acolytes in two years? To whom do they transfer their loyalty? Or does Trump attempt to continue to influence politics post-retirement as Obama has done?

cat's avatar

Why feel the need to refer to someone who votes with Trump an "acolyte" who needs to "transfer their loyalty?" As if nobody thinks on their own. Who are you an "acolyte" for?

Sea Sentry's avatar

Well, some of the candidates Trump supports openly say they support his agenda, regardless of specifics. That sounds like an acolyte to me. The question I’m raising is, when Trump is gone, what’s underneath their Trump support? What do they stand for at that point? What are we getting? We don’t know.

It’s true I’m an acolyte also…for the U.S. constitution, fiscal responsibility and human thriving.

cat's avatar
May 21Edited

I'm also an acolyte as you state in your second paragraph.

I don't think it's a big deal if some of the candidates Trump supports say they support his agenda. There are undoubtedly some people swayed by such things, just as there are those supporting socialism and communism who support the mayors of NYC and Seattle.

But I think you give too much credit to this Trump support stuff. Most of us see past it; an endorsement by Trump or indeed, any organization or person, doesn't mean much to me except sometimes in determining who not to vote for locally. To me, personally, I want support in getting some of the Trump-endorsed legislative issues taken care of, such as the SAVE act, and in getting so many of his openings filled (Thune has been a major roadblock in this strategy to keep Senate in session continually and not bringing up for votes most of the people waiting to fill positions). But other stuff Trump wants or seems to want, such as the AI/crypto/glyphosate/"protecting minors" through censorship/tracking, etc. I don't want at all.

I believe many others who "support Trump" are the same way. I don't see anyone worshipping Trump or in a Trump cult as some claim. Trump is not MAGA and MAGA is not even unanimous. It's just a movement towards freedom, but not a monolithic block like how Democrats seem to all support their party no matter how far it veers off track.

Sea Sentry's avatar

All good points. Totally agree.

PoetKen Jones's avatar

My first comment is you need to focus on your health. I’m willing to contribute another batch of Mondays in June but if you want to keep those for your amusement, how about PoetKen’s June Moon Spoons? Poetry posts tied to the phases of the moon? Have not looked at a calendar fyi. You do find some unusual news items I missed in HITs: “abortion adoption abuse” is a phrase I never thought of; a list of “Jewish mass shooters” seems quite short though “Hispanic/Tejano patriots” is quite long. I don’t fish 🐠 (can’t risk a 🪝 in my fingers) but because reservoirs are artificially created by dams, they actually don’t top my top of the head angling spots. I’ve been to innovative restaurants in Houston and Austin that use those invasive “trash fish”. And yes, Ive seen and taken some Waymo’s in Austin: ironically just last week a driver in San Antonio mentioned the Waymo accident there. More on that one when it’s a Tuesday topic. Peace ✌️

MDM 2.0's avatar

The lake down by us is a reservoir (Amistad), and is one of the best bass fishing lakes in the country.

Way down these days, small islands are visible now where it used to be water for literally miles.

PoetKen Jones's avatar

I believe you as I already confessed my ignorance. I ain’t no Isaak Walton.

MDM 2.0's avatar

hahaha...was not my intent to make you look like a no nothin' skillethead.

Sometimes I just get lucky😊

Celia M Paddock's avatar

I had some things in mind for June, but let me think about it.

JBell's avatar

Loved it!

Celia M Paddock's avatar

That is hilarious. "Not that I'm MAGA or anything."

James Roberts's avatar

Did y'all already discuss the shameful verdict delivered in the Giggle vs Tickle case in Australia?

JBell's avatar

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Sierras23's avatar

Giggle vs Tickle: a recent ruling by courts in Australia that, in summary, states that women have no rights to any private spaces. Another hammer on women's privacy in an insane world of "gender inclusion". Jennifer Bilek, a journalist, has been writing for years on the forces and big money behind the trans movement. You can find her on Substack.

Celia M Paddock's avatar

Seems like Michelle mentioned that earlier in the week. Australia has fallen.