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Mark D.'s avatar

A large contributing factor to Russia’s 2022 invasion is the fact that the US has demonized Russia and made engagement with Russia taboo (see Mike Flynn), all because Democrats couldn’t admit that Hillary Clinton was a bad candidate who ran a poor campaign. Ever since 2016, “Russia Bad” has been our elites’ foreign policy.

So, making Russia a pariah for eight years has accomplished nothing but the rise of an anti-Western alliance of them, China, Iran, and others.

There was a diplomatic solution to the Ukraine conflict- more autonomy for the east- but the US and UK goaded both Ukraine and Russia into war with bluster and tough talk, not to mention actively undermining peace talks.

Do not underestimate ideologues’ tolerance for stacks of dead soldiers and civilians if it furthers their goal- in this case, “hurting Putin” (essentially making him pay for “stealing” the 2016 election).

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I had dinner with 15 or so Ukrainians at a work function around 2014. People got drunk and started talking about politics (of course). It was 14 to 1 against Russia. The lone holdout kept saying "but we were all a lot better off when Russia was in charge", and the response was basically "of course, but it's Russia!"

As an aside, I also used to know a Chilean immigrant who would get drunk and go on about how great things were under Pinochet. It takes all kinds, I guess.

I'd probably be able to achieve more clarity around Ukraine if so much of their current situation wasn't due to blatant and incompetent fuckery on the part of the US government. Assuming that Russia would fail to act in its own national best interests is a position so absurd that only a neoliberal could ever think of it.

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